9.0 TEASER: Low-Dose Lithium with Sudhir Gadh, MD

[00:00:00] Hey everyone, I'm really excited to release this series on low dose lithium with my guest

[00:00:05] Dr. Sudier Gad, a psychiatrist living and working in New York City. We talk about low dose

[00:00:12] lithium's tremendous risk benefit profile and its current investigations in dozens of different

[00:00:18] conditions from psychiatric problems such as depression and suicidality,

[00:00:23] to medical illnesses such as viral syndromes like HIV, HSV and COVID, autoimmune diseases,

[00:00:31] neurodegenerative conditions such as dementia, as well as its role in addictions to elicit

[00:00:37] substances. And so much more, we're talking about low doses of a naturally occurring substance

[00:00:45] and likely trace element within our bodies. From nutritional supplementation to the lowest prescription

[00:00:52] dose of 150 milligrams of lithium carbonate, both of which are associated with a rarity of side

[00:00:59] effects and operate with several different mechanisms of action with some benefits occurring in the

[00:01:05] first week or two of treatment and other benefits likely requiring a couple of months of continued

[00:01:12] treatment. These are not guaranteed benefits. Lithium is not a panacea for everything but

[00:01:20] in my field with so many medications that can cause harm at times irreparable harm and have

[00:01:27] limited efficacy. Lithium certainly appears to be a good starting point. Low dose lithium certainly

[00:01:34] appears to be a good starting point in the treatment of many different psychiatric and sometimes even

[00:01:39] physical conditions. Stick around for the teaser and tune in every Tuesday and Friday for a new

[00:01:46] episode in the series. We'll talk about lithium's immune benefits, talk about our personal experiences

[00:01:52] taking low dose lithium, discuss its use in addiction alongside low dose stimulants and treating ADHD,

[00:02:00] and Dr. Gad emphasizes the need for campaign finance reform as a remedy to our broken healthcare

[00:02:07] system. We'll follow it up with some closing thoughts and a mix provided by DJ Dr. Gad at the end of

[00:02:14] the series. Hope you enjoy. Somebody get this guy some help.

[00:02:28] Don't worry about what he took. Worry about who he was prior to taking. The battle we're talking

[00:02:35] about is reversing about a hundred years of corrupted government and industry that is now

[00:02:43] it's become metastatic. They don't need to elect new people, they can do it. We just demand it.

[00:02:48] I don't think it's going to happen by force but if we don't it might have to. January 6th could be

[00:02:54] a rehearsal based on how tough things are going for Americans. How do we get back to electing folks

[00:03:02] like George Washington who were so highly respected for their moral fortitude above anything else?

[00:03:10] We can inspire any professional who has lost their way whether it's in elected office or

[00:03:16] holds a license for something to keep striving for something bigger to sacrifice this gain

[00:03:24] monetarily, temporarily for something deeper so that they can sleep at night so that their soul

[00:03:31] is elevated. I don't see any of these people worthy of having a portrait up in the House of the

[00:03:38] Senate if this is what they do which is 70% of the time asking for money. If that's what they're

[00:03:44] doing most of the time is emailing us and calling us this has got to be soiling to themselves.

[00:03:51] Bipolar is best treated with lithium, stew is sadality is best treated with lithium.

[00:03:57] Europe figured this out but it took America about 30 years to stamp this by the FDA which

[00:04:04] goes to show how open they are, how honest they are, how affected they are by the system of

[00:04:11] Bayer back then and Bristol Myers and Pfizer, or whatever else was pulling strings.

[00:04:17] Literally the first number that I found I called it thinking oh I'm going to get somebody

[00:04:23] or a clinic and you answered the phone and I was like oh what how's it going? Yeah people are

[00:04:29] still taken aback by that. I think it could be a good problem to have when it becomes a problem.

[00:04:35] This is not lithium for bipolar disorder, I'm not recommending that we're talking about

[00:04:40] low-dose lithium, nutritional lithium, it's already in us, it's in the best soil and water in the world

[00:04:47] and it's now a more proven, not just historically but scientifically proven

[00:04:54] inflammation mediator especially neurologically than ever before. I know that you DJ it's a fun

[00:05:01] hobby to orchestrate a party reading minds in a different way for fun as long as hands are in

[00:05:07] the air that's all that matters. I've never really met somebody who didn't have a smile on their face

[00:05:13] when they're dancing. It's one of those simple pleasures in life, let's get that dopamine hit

[00:05:19] without having to hit anything. I would recommend you make your playlist and let it rip in there.

[00:05:26] Because it is absolutely primal. That herpes virus lies dormant in the nerve root and it doesn't

[00:05:34] cause any problems when it doesn't sense any distress in the brain. Well when you're physically

[00:05:39] emotionally ill that virus comes out to the lips, tries to escape because it senses that chaos.

[00:05:46] People on lithium, they don't have the same frequency or intensity of herpes virus outbreaks.

[00:05:54] Look doc, the short of it if I can say it that way is that most of psychiatry will think of lithium

[00:06:01] just as intensely and rigidly as the rest of medicine. That's the influence of very powerful

[00:06:08] market forces in this country which are ruining a lot of things. I'm no socialist but I have no

[00:06:12] terrorist capitalist item. When you're a psychiatrist working in the system and finding it really difficult

[00:06:21] to achieve good results for your patients, you got to start thinking outside the box. I don't want

[00:06:26] to keep providing bags of medicine to my patients for them to not even know what they're taking,

[00:06:31] having side effects or to not be working, or to be having interactive effects. This was just silly.

[00:06:39] So I said if lithium works well for this subset maybe it'll work for

[00:06:45] suicideality that's presenting differently. It was in seven up when it was created.

[00:06:52] Bob water started because of lithium water actually because it's so rare and special

[00:06:57] and that the best waters that you can get are actually a little bit of lithium in it.

[00:07:02] Why does lithium result in fewer outbreaks of HSV and HIV? And it was replicated in SARS-COVID-1

[00:07:12] and 2. It's not going after one specific virus. What it's doing is helping the body's own immune system

[00:07:21] to be balanced, not over reactive, not under reactive. It's weird that I have to conduct research

[00:07:31] with this Spanish research group while living in New York among some of the best research institutions.

[00:07:39] They talk about preventing exposure to the virus but Dr. Fauci nor anyone really talked about

[00:07:47] this is the time to get as healthy as you can to reduce your residual inflammation.

[00:07:52] Take this and you will reduce chances for hospitalization because I got this thing fresh out of the

[00:07:58] bat or whatever the hell it was from before New York City was even closed down. I had recovered.

[00:08:04] I'm a fit guy. I can run and lift with anyone but I felt like I'd glass in my lungs.

[00:08:10] All 14 of the patients that we gave lithium to discharge within a week

[00:08:16] too died in the other group. All 18 cytokines reduced but the other group

[00:08:22] I see you admissions longer stays in the hospital so we've got 2%

[00:08:26] of the global population dealing with long COVID. We don't want to look at something so

[00:08:32] obvious because it's not patented because it's natural. The concept you're talking about

[00:08:38] in terms of being comfortable with one's emotions is important because a lot of the

[00:08:43] methods we use now SSRI specifically will numb emotion with let us lithium you get to safely

[00:08:51] explore emotion rather than be overwhelmed by it or not feel it at all or be intoxicated

[00:09:01] like we are doing with the benzodiazepine class. If you lived in blue zones of the world

[00:09:08] regions that have ultra high longevity statistics from Japan to parts of Europe, France,

[00:09:16] northern Spain most of Italy, Sardinia, the Mediterranean. Yeah they have piazzas they're laughing

[00:09:22] they're eating together but there's also better soil and water and the key ingredient in all those

[00:09:28] but it's not just connection it is lithium. This Texas anem study that shows

[00:09:34] northwest Texas north of El Paso has significant amounts of lithium and those regions are

[00:09:40] very healthy and they are not significantly elevated or in fact reduced in health measures

[00:09:48] to the cytomicide crime violence. We're told not to rely on our anecdotal experience

[00:09:55] and it's this concept called studyism that only double-blind placebo control trials matter.

[00:10:01] Anacetyl does not matter all of this cannot and should not be ignored when you look at lithium as a whole

[00:10:08] the historical aspect of it, hipocrates and galein would take patients to these waters

[00:10:14] potassium edificiency will kill you you go into a hospital you have potassium deficiency they will

[00:10:19] give you an IV and a bag of that will help you get back to normal rhythm survive and you will

[00:10:27] feel better if it's given over an hour. If they give you that same amount in an injection it's a lethal

[00:10:32] injection all of these minerals on the periodic table that we have in our bodies that we need

[00:10:38] a little bit are good too much are bad it is the only inhibitor of GSK3 the master aging enzyme

[00:10:46] that is higher as we age drug abuse alcohol abuse accelerates GSK3 concussions at head injuries

[00:10:54] accelerate GSK3 severe chronic inflammatory illness the only inhibitor is lithium. Lithium is not

[00:11:01] a panacea it is not a cure all it is an assistant if we treat causes of addiction simultaneously to

[00:11:10] the addiction itself we're going to have better results one of the most common causes of addiction

[00:11:15] is physical pain or chronic medical illness the second is emotional pain trauma informed and finally

[00:11:24] it may be under treated ADHD that can lead to economic pain. It's a lucky to even be alive with

[00:11:31] the amount of fentanyl and trink and god knows what that's contaminating this stuff but there's no way

[00:11:36] we can stop this at the border there's too much coming in you have to go to the demand side not

[00:11:41] the supply side we got too much of the extremes again in the country about how we're treating addiction

[00:11:47] once I want to lock them up the old way that didn't work that's just a waste of money the other side

[00:11:52] wants to allow them to use drugs enable it not just allow it enable it make it easier incentivize it

[00:12:00] help this is nonsense people don't realize the racial disparity in stimulant prescriptions

[00:12:08] that on one end of town ADHD was a legitimate diagnosis and low dose stimulants were an effective

[00:12:15] medication but on the other side of town that same hyperactivity that same impulsivity would

[00:12:21] probably more likely be diagnosis bipolar disorder absolutely right doc but earlier than that they

[00:12:27] call out to a bad kid drug seeking is a discriminatory term just like addict is a discriminatory

[00:12:36] term we have to be better than that in a world that is becoming more I like enlightened or awakened

[00:12:43] but it's called woke now right they're not drug seeking they're relief seeking in terms of methamphetamine

[00:12:50] it's a tummy gun of dopamine and that is again what's available and it was treating not just

[00:12:55] ADHD but crippling depression and trauma this is not the same methamphetamine created in the trailer

[00:13:02] park that has relatively low purity this is cartel methamphetamine produced in very nice laboratories

[00:13:12] and the potency is approaching 100 percent deaths are occurring because the meth is so strong

[00:13:20] leading to cardiovascular failings strokes and if not death permanent damage

[00:13:26] to their brains or to their bodies if you fall prey to your own belief system discriminatorily

[00:13:33] and say no they're drug seeking I'm not going to give them a stimulant you are neglecting potentially

[00:13:39] life-saving care our treatment facility is ranked in the top 1 percent of all treatment facilities

[00:13:47] in New York state measured by a way says I thought it was absolutely insane I was told to

[00:13:55] prescribe the suicidal patient a class of drugs that can make them more suicidal but nobody ever

[00:14:03] talked about using even low doses of lithium to help prevent people from killing themselves the

[00:14:09] worst outcome that we can have in the field of psychiatry another word anemology your doctor the

[00:14:16] word it comes from the word for teacher so are we really teaching or are we simply judging they come

[00:14:23] in we make a judgment we give this medicine we bill goodbye that wasn't the medicine I wanted to

[00:14:28] practice what is the way to affect the system as a whole there is one way out it's campaign financial

[00:14:36] form greed has infected this system we're under you can make a peace sign turn it on its side and

[00:14:43] you've got your index finger going straight up that is the graph of median income which is

[00:14:49] stayed pretty flat since the mid 70s and four different things health care costs education costs

[00:14:56] housing costs and campaign financing the players who are playing by those rules whether it's

[00:15:03] hospitals insurance big pharma doctors boot manufacturers we can ascribe blame to all these people

[00:15:11] but all those people play by the rules set by congress and now it's worse than ever but it's just

[00:15:17] blatantly trading stocks follow Nancy Pelosi's portfolio that's all economists articles said 95%

[00:15:26] of pharmaceutical money that goes to campaigns goes to winners they already know who is most

[00:15:35] likely to win they line those pockets within our government system to be able to do what they want

[00:15:43] I used to have weekly journal club sponsored by pharma hot lunch Thursdays instead of cold cuts we eat

[00:15:52] we watch this lecture feel dirty afterwards because I knew this was skewed information we had to

[00:15:59] be smeared as an entire department altogether they were taken it away I said shit

[00:16:05] more cold cut but I think I liked it when I didn't have to wear their chauches but not be spoon-fed

[00:16:12] drivel this is a bipartisan issue there's enough corruption on both ends of the aisle that

[00:16:20] it's preventing our society from progressing take money out of the equation many many many many years

[00:16:29] ago we worked to get better at our crafts be better as a species as a group and we've just totally lost

[00:16:37] side of that for these superficial monetary gains somebody get this guy some help

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